Here is a discussion with the anonymous youtube identity nephi man
NM: If you do not follow a prophet, then whom do you follow?......plz if you say Christ, and him alone, plz that is so so original of you....yet Christ left his church into the hands of men, who were called Apostles and Prophets. Eph 2
NM: Are you a nom denom, if you are, then it might explain why.......If NOT then your lost with no shepherd to lead or guide you. please what are you? So i may understand your sad statement!
WS: nephi man I was referring to the practice of lying in the name of God, which has started with Joseph. I can think of more honest apostolic leaders. http://www.xmormon.net/ (Walter)
NM: whom do you follow to know,where is Gods church and its apostles as stated in Eph 2?
xmormon.net, sure a great source of truth, seriously? whatever man!
WS: nephi man, I follow Jesus, God's Kingdom is amidst all sincere Christians, as to true apostles that do not lie check out Rolland & Heidi Baker, the apostles of the Love of God at http://www.irisglobal.org/ They live in Mozambique and God is transforming a whole nation. I bet that most TBM's have never heard of her. She is dubbed the new Charismatic Mother Teresa.
WS: nephi man, I would like to know something as well. All TBM's covenant not to lie. But how do you feel about leaders lying in the name of God. Is that oK if it hastens the work ?