Please Note: This is a work in progress with a partially edited / redacted a machine transcript taken from youtube from the "Stolen Treasure" presentation by D P Trebas as posted on the Exmormon Foundation youtube channel in 2017.
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David Pawl Trebas has spent thousands of hours in research across a wider range of Pre-Mormon history based on Lucy’s book, which is publicly available here:
http://signaturebookslibrary.org/lucys-book-the-textual-history-of-lucy-mack-smiths-book/
W Strohbeck – 15 January 2019
…. (Stories like Aesop's fables) can contain universal truths even if they are the tales of their history and authorship are not literally true no one has a strong vested interest in these stories religious convictions are not connected to them families do not fight over them Aesop's fables are simply seen as quaint tales that may do somebody somewhere some good long before I became a technology innovator I turned 11 and became a Mormon. The missionaries who lived in our house made sure I was fed the then standard narrative. ... An affair was swept under the rug what was plain to me then and now was that a truth that could negatively impact the faith of others was something that should not be talked about openly.
A few years later I came to seminary surprised to find people crying and happy . I asked why between Joyce offs they shared the Spencer W Kimball our prophet had just received a new revelation
allowing all worthy male members to be
ordained I was puzzled until one of them
said that blacks could not hold the priesthood
I was shocked our family moved a lot and
we had been among the few white kids in
the public schools in Oakland California
we knew firsthand the stings of racism
and ostracism what am i guiding lights
was a burning conviction to specifically
not be racist I was surprised to learn
for the first time that anyone had ever
not been able to hold the priesthood
because of their skin color my worried
bishop quickly reassured me there were
good reasons for the ban and gave me a
copy of a book called Mormonism in the
Negro he testified of the claims of the
book and that the band was doctrinal
required and from God by then much of my
identity came from being a Mormon the
church offered community family and
stability it seemed a moot point going
forward according to my bishop
we Mormons weren't racist and never had
been when it came time to serve my
mission I passed I still had no respect
for the missionaries instead I graduated
early from high school married the
Bishop's daughter and started my own
technology company we fell into the
routine of being Chapel Mormons and said
about making and raising good Mormon
children of our own
as a technology innovator I wrote and
worked with hundreds of thousands of
lines of source code I developed and
patented things no one had ever seen
before a large part of my time was spent
debugging finding little things here and
there that weren't quite right that
could impact the big picture years later
despite making polygamy
while being the emcee for Pioneer Day I found myself serving in a leadership role in the church that's a member of a stake presidency in California soon after proposition 8 was introduced the goal makes same-sex marriage unconstitutional I wasn't fully on board with church leaders who warned a Satan
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wanted to destroy traditional families using gay marriage but I remained silent and supported my leaders one morning I was out canvassing my neighborhood for support a door opened I could see children playing inside the sun shining down on them the pleasant woman who answered smiled patiently I asked if I could place a sign in the yard she told me she didn't support prop 8 and that her wife didn't either the irony hit me in the face I had become the persecutor the bully seeking to ostracize Ferg I thought that was no better than the angry mob so it wants to attack Mormons I was overcome with a strong feeling that out of all religions are should not be the one to call non-traditional marriage counterfeit I found a dumpster nearby and threw away my remaining signs when the law passed my oldest son called me upset he was no longer an active member and had gone against church teachings by marrying a wonderful woman from a different race he demanded I justify and explained myself I tried but couldn't defend the Church's position because it was no longer mine as a church we had not been honest with 05:38 our fellow citizens our leaders publicly claimed we'd not been involved in prop 8 I had personally participated in many meetings where we were it wasn't a closely guarded secret that the amount of money donated would be considered when extending future leadership callings when these amounts were revealed publicly everyone knew I'd give him nothing I was released and replaced with someone who had shortly after I moved to Southern California and avoided leadership callings
I tried to go back to being just a chapel Mormon. In October 2013 dieter UchtDorf made a startling announcement during conference buried in his "doubt your doubts" talk was an admission past leaders have made mistakes that could cause doubts about our religion and it's truth claims I couldn't recall a leader ever speaking like this I wondered what we ever know which leaders which mistakes two months later the church released an essay called race in the priesthood as I read it I felt betrayed in the essay the church claims the priesthood ban was just the product of racist men and racist times during races things it specifically disavowed and condemned all racism past and present in any form mentioning directly the teachings from the book my bishop had given me the church was condemning and disavowing not only prior prophets doctrine scripture and teachings they were condemning and disavowing me for being racist the one thing I had been assured we never were as I was reeling from the implications of this essay additional essays were quietly published each one felt like a blow to my very core containing starting revelations about troubling aspects of church history and doctrine I'd never been told about after the fourteenth
essay
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I decided my faith needed a serious reboot if the church itself was 07:16 now rejecting key portions of things that once taught is fundamental eternal and unchanging. I felt it important that no religious belief of mine be placed beyond scrutiny and examination I had a lot of questions and I wondered if others to to online I found others like me Jeremy Runnells of faith will return missionary was ready to resign over his questions. His grandfather begged him to write them down promising a family friend the CES director would respond the result was Jeremy's in from the CES letter instead of official answers unofficial apologists attacked and demonized Jeremy they actually tried to debunk his questions to me silencing someone for asking questions seem more like North Korea than Jesus Christ Jeremy resigned his church membership minutes before and improperly officiated kangaroo court could kick him out
part of my spiritual reboot involves studying the world's religions there were three core traits ofhumanity in every civilization and every time the first was to have doubts and questions the second was to have spiritual experiences and the third which would look for patterns to reconcile the two to tell people that they shouldn't have doubts or that they should doubt them well that's to rob from them a core trait of humanity more importantly Jeremy's questions were pretty good they begged for an explanation when word got out that the church would now withhold temple priests to their membership blessings from gay people and from their children leaders assured us we really weren't homophobic the arguments that apologetics all seemed very familiar I prayed about what specifically I was required to believe what was the bare minimum I had to accept just literally true I didn't want another 30 years to go by only to find out these policies were just homophobic leaders in homophobic times making homophobic and on christ-like mistakes that would eventually be disavowed and condemned as I was struggling to understand what I was required to believe.
I found a talk Jeffrey Holland game in 2006 he claimed members didn't have to have a burning
conviction as to the origins of Mormonism we'll be committed to any foundational statement or premise of Mormonism well.
if I didn't take some things literally or anything literally. I wasn't going to be kicked out. this resulted at one of those light bulb moments that we all have Elder Holland was admitting that something didn't have to be literally true to contain truth as I said it appears one Sunday I looked around and realized I had become a figurative Mormon I didn't literally believe many
of the claims and then I discovered other figurative Mormons they were everywhere they're your teachers your presidents your leaders your missionaries moms sons friends and family so I realized they were everywhere I thought well maybe they've always been here maybe among the founding Mormons there were figurative Mormons but then I remember that lesson I'd learned well all those years ago a truth that could negatively impact the faith of others was something that should not be talked about openly but Jeremy placed right at the top of his CS letter a quote from J Reuben Clark that if we have the truth that can't be harmed by investigation and if we had not the truth it ought to be harmed.
He didn't say true he said truth maybe many of the things we've been told were literally true didn't need to be. They could still have a truth inside then I came across the Holland challenge. Elder Holland stated in 2009 that the only way to avoid crawling over under or around the Book of Mormon was to make an honest attempt to count for its origin. It was a more refined way of asking how an illiterate farm boy could create 531 pages of heretofore unknown complexity. Well Jeremy had certainly done a great job of asking questions but he'd never been given any answers how many people including me had had
spiritual experiences but the only explanation offered was the official supernatural narrative in this challenge elder Holland's words spoke to me.
I didn't have to go over under or around I could go right through I just had to make an honest attempt to explain it I could take all the competing truth clips from believers and former believers and treat them my source code I complete by spiritual reboot by debugging the Book of Mormon and
Mormonism itself and so challenge the accepted.
So I traveled here to a luxury beachfront condo in Penang Malaysia and with the sounds of the daily Muslim prayers in the background I accessed high-speed Internet and researched thousands and thousands of books from ancient books to modern books to old books to new books and what I did was put together not something that I can tell you is definitely how it happened that be foolish to make that claim all I'm saying is that this is a probable explanation this is how it could have happened and if you don't believe my stories are true that's ok after all as a figurative Mormon I believe that you can find truth in things that are not literally true I started where most historians from Bushman de Brodie began.
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Lucy Mac Smith
She was more than just a nursing mother she was the only author
that was present from the bright first
chapters of early Mormonism to the dark
closing pages in Nauvoo within days of
crying out to God over the corpses of
her martyred children she engaged young
Martha Corey to act to suscribe
they sat for hours as Lucy stared down
into the stone cold past less than one
year after they began 70 year old Lucy
despite her lack of a formal education
obtained a copy right for her 300 pages
of heretofore unknown text teeming with
literary and Semitic complexity yet she
never published it despite claiming it
was for the benefit of All Saints her
book was of critical importance to the
few men carefully circling each other
for control over the headless church
mother Smith's memoir could make or
break a future prophet priest or King where other historians quickly accepted her narrative and moved past I stopped and dug deeper
I found serious issues that have been
overlooked by everyone the first was a
ridiculous story of her husband losing
money selling crystallized ginseng to
China well the timing for the deal was
off by months not allowing for the
travel time by ships of the day plus the
alleged payment in a chest of gold that
was not something that Chinese did and
the Chinese valued that she of a whole
route in the shape of a human body why
bring up a story where her husband dug
up human shape truths and chopped them
up well then I discovered that her long
death scenes at relatives dying from the
symptoms of poisoning drinking rice
water the source of arsenic through
clenched teeth
and there were these long-winded death
monologues that included words from old
religious texts one relative quoting st.
John of the Cross and another being
liken to the Puritan protester and
hutchinson who was killed by Indians
then mother Lucy made many many indirect
references to specific locations and
names when she clearly remembered enough
to explicitly state them was she hiding
something and that's when it hit me this
wasn't a book it was a ransom note
if you understood the full context of
Lucy's narrative why you could use it to
quickly unravel the truth claims of
every branch of Mormonism Lucy's family
had paid dearly in blood for the new
religion if she didn't receive some
benefit she'd ruin everything for
everyone Brigham Young knew exactly what
had to happen Lucy and Emma got the money and resources in Nauvoo they
needed to survive in return for their silence everyone including Brigham got
to keep their branch of Mormonism but the world well the world did not get the
truth shortly after the deal was struck
the Prophet James Strang took the Saints
that followed him north to become the
pirate king of Beaver Island where he
performed many Joseph like miracles
Sidney Rigdon took the few saints that
followed him back east Brigham Young the
Lion of the Lord modern-day Moses he
took his Sansa to Salt Lake City among
the Martha Corey he ordered what he
thought was the only copy of Lucy's
manuscript thrown into the memory hole
of his archives where he assumed it
would be forgotten forever Lucy and Emma
and their family remained in Nauvoo in
1852 the church finally decided it was time to be more open and honest
Salt Lake leaders announced they had lied for years polygamy long denied and
cast as a scandalous lie by unscrupulous
anti annexed Mormons the very issue that
had resulted in the deaths of Joseph and
Hyrum was true doctrinal and from God
another bombshell that changed the then
standard narrative Joseph had also been
a polygamist a series of essays by Orson Pratt was rushed into print explaining
things in lawyerly doublespeak many felt
betrayed conference and entire
congregations resigned missionary
efforts particularly in England took a
beating Orson was called upon to again
work his magic
like the time he had introduced the
first vision narrative years after the
church had formed
on his way east Orson came across
another copy of Lucy's book and obtained
her permission to use it as he saw fit
in England he heavily edited the work
removing many of her stories adding
things she hadn't included he took the
focus off her entire family to shine a
spotlight only on Joseph making it seem
he had approved of the work without
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Without Brigham Young's knowledge or permission Orson published the hybrid book in
England and used it to resurrect the flagging missionary efforts when Britain
found out he was outraged and announced
the book as a tissue of lies a public
spat between Brigham and Orson resulted
in rising sales of the book in Salt Lake
when Lucy died Emma used her resources
to help her son Joseph Smith the third
claimed leadership of the scattered
remnants of the Midwestern saints the
young prophet believes strongly two core
tenets his mother had drilled into him
since childhood the first his father was
a good man the second who had never
practiced polygamy
young Joseph announced he was coming
after Brigham to reclaim the lost scenes
in Utah in response Brigham pol the
Fahrenheit 451 and demanded Orson's
version of Lucy's book be banned and all
copies rounded up and destroyed
why did Brigham Young see Lucy's book as
a Pandora's box that he tried to close
his concern should not have been
dismissed these stories certainly should
have never been reprinted in a
children's book as I came to fully
understand the context of the threat
Brigham saw I discovered hidden threads and buried treasures in Lucy's writing
as each mystery unraveled I was reminded
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of the words Lucy spoke in General Conference in 1845. Are you willing to
receive stolen goods or not ?
I want to
know if you believe in such things for
the rest of my presentation I have a lot
of stories in limited time I'll go quick
but if you miss anything or want more
details be sure to get my book it's
important to note that this is not the
Spalding Rip doodle theory that theory
is so many moving parts it never really
explains why Rigden would need Joseph at all when he'd already written fake scriptures on his own there are a few names that we do need to know you can research them yourselves and when you do I'm pretty sure you'll have a greater understanding of how I can make the bold claim that the Lucy code plays out the most plausible natural explanation for the way it went down what she pointed to destroys the truth claims of every branch of more nezam
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Ancient America
17:46 our first stop is the real ancient America like all other ancient Americans the Aztecs never had horses elephants
cows goats sheep pigs barley wheat bees
chariots wheel scimitar Tsar steel but
they did have cities 200,000 strong
larger than most in Europe they had
technology religion government modes of
transportation in their own form of
currency they also had sharp and lethal
weapons made from volcanic obsidian glass when Cortez showed up initially the Aztecs had superior manpower and they were every bit the equal of the Spaniards the Spanish were driven off after they brutally slaughtered members of the royal family they showed up a year later expecting a fight on their hands not sure they would prevail what they found instead was a ghost town in
18:22 In end it was Spanish germs not Spanish steel that defeated the Aztecs in
addition to their cities and gold being
looted their religious artifacts
including religious mirrors that had
allowed their priests to see the future
in the heavens were taken the old world
feasted on the stolen treasures of the
new 50 years later Queen Elizabeth ruled
England with the greatest scientist and
magician in the world at her side John
Dee used astrology to choose the Queen's
coronation day when a new star appeared
in the heavens people were scared they
thought the world was ending and Jesus
was returning as owner of the largest
library and earth Dee sought answers to
this heavenly sign but the later
destruction of the Spanish Armada Dee
told the Queen that all of this was the
message from God and that she was to be
the next King Arthur with Dee her Merlin
Dee had consulted a history text called
the Scott a chronic on a multi-volume
work written in Latin containing an
earlier abridged history and the
earliest references to our theory and
legends dee informed the Queen that this
time Camelot would be a British Empire
spanning the globe he created special
instruments and charts from the Queen
selected Francis Drake to make these
prophecies reality d next turned his
sights on discovering the science behind
God's hierarchy of angels everyone knew
that the entire world was run by
different levels of angels so that
hidden mysteries would be revealed if
you could talk with them he was
confident that his stone Aztec Mayor was
the key to heavenly communication
ancient civilizations of the Hebrews
Greeks Romans Egyptians and Aztecs
contained lost knowledge that could help
D but all their priests and magicians
were long dead
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he again consulted the Scott chronicon
for advice on how to proceed there he
read The Legend of skoda and Egyptian
princess and a Greek prince who had
joined forces wandered in the desert for
a bit and then built ships and sail
West their descendants eventually became
the first kings and queens of Ireland
and Scotland who kept their son
worshiping religion magic stones were
central to these beliefs they had even
brought the Stone of Scone with them the
very stone pillow of the Prophet Jacob
it used when he'd received his famous
vision Jacob's Ladder was the stairway
to and from heaven that allowed God and
angels to communicate with men dnews
Scottish druids used magic egg stones as
seer stones to find lost treasures and
see into heavenly realms if he couldn't
find an actual Aztec or Egyptian
magician to help him maybe he could find
the next best thing someone descended
from Irish or Scottish royalty who
carried with in their veins the blood
and power of the Lost Egyptians Edward
Kelly showed up with a forged genealogy
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claiming he was just the man Dee was
looking for as a convicted thief
Kelly's ears have been cut off but this
didn't stop Dee from giving him a trial
run he was delighted discovered that
Edward could see into the stone never
the scientist he documented their many
sessions and would claim that angels
from the city of Enoch were
communicating with him these angels
taught them the Enochian alphabet so
Kelly could read the parchment cartoon
bubbles that showed up whenever they
spoke they learned the ancient Adamic
language and we're excited
when the Signet of Solomon was revealed it contained magic symbols of a compass
square horizontal mark and naval line
these would eventually find their way
into Freemasonry and Mormonism if you've
ever wondered about the real origins of
your garments now you know they came
from Enochian angels communicating
through cartoon bubbles in a stolen
Aztec mirror to a convicted thief who
used to fabricate a genealogy to trick
the Queen's magician into believing he
was descended from Scottish royalty and
being Egyptian by blood could work with
magic stones the Signet also contained
letters at the corners that when read
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properly said pay lay El
Edward Kelly despite being named by Dee as a
prophet and seer eventually grew bored
and wanted to trick European Royals into
believing he knew how to turn led into
gold
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to hasten the end of their work Kelly
revealed the final secret of the
Enochian angels the two men would have
all things in common including wives
they convinced their spouses to go along
with this but Wendy is much younger wife
got pregnant the partnership ended
Dee returned to England I found his
library and reputation destroyed Kelly
died from injuries sustained trying to
escape a royal prison he'd been thrown
into John Dee's many deeds were written
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out of the history books and other
scientists learned well that when
looking for ancient mysteries it was
best to keep secret anything
couldn't proof John DS unwritten warning over 250 years before Mormonism was if
you ever ran into a man who claimed to
be a prophet and seer who could talk to
the heavens by looking into a seer stone
well you'd better keep a close eye on
your wife starting in the Middle Ages
stonemason guild sought to protect their
wages by carefully controlling the
workforce master and apprentice masons
could travel to any castle or other projects and proved their membership in the guild through a series of four special hand shakes many felt Scottish and Irish masons were particularly skilled because of their claim to Egyptian lineage and that civilizations well-known stone projects including the pyramids in 1560 exiled
from the murderous reign of the
Protestant persecuting Queen Bloody Mary
published the first mass-produced
an easily readable English Bible the
Geneva Bible dedicated to newly crowned Queen Elizabeth was extremely popular with over 150 editions it was the primary Bible of Protestant reformers and the Bible used by Shakespeare Milton Knox and Bunyan
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in 1611 King James shocked the world by producing his own Bible it showed God ruling over a heaven of three degrees of the Sun Moon and stars the controversial first edition included illustrations showing the union of Adam and Eve being solemnized
by one of the secret stonemason
handshakes parts of the text for starkly
different when Adam and Eve discovered
their nakedness in the new Bible they
didn't cover themselves with pants as in
all prior Bibles they covered themselves
with Masonic aprons further
illustrations showed additional
genealogies listed in the Bible being
formed by that same Masonic handshake
the different tribes of Israel were
charted and connected a royal crest
showing how God favored the kings and
queens of England
even the King of Kings Jesus Christ was
the product of a Masonic union between
Joseph and Mary not only was this
blasphemous Bible rejected by the people
the monarchy was as well in his youth
Oliver Cromwell had been a live and let live Christian who followed the Dutch theologian Jacob as harmonious he became a politician and then a failed farmer and suffered a nervous breakdown he
converted to stringent Puritanism ignoring the Divine Right of Kings he signed the execution order for the regicide of King Charles he gained a reputation as a brutal theocratic dictator and earned the nickname God's executioner when he tried to pass on his title as Lord Protector to his unpopular son motions were put in place to invite 24:22 a monarchy back into the Kingdom shortly after this two events radically changed the world: London suffered the last major epidemic of the bubonic plague killing over 100,000 people the following year saw the great fire that destroyed most of 24:36 the city the call went out far and wide for Masons as Portland stone was the material chosen to rebuild London properly when the Masons came they brought with them their secret societies at first meeting in taverns they
expanded to dedicated lodges it's
non-operative Mason's joined their ranks
when most of the rebuilding was done and
the workers left for their next job many
of the larger lodges remained with
artists scientists and Nobles filling
their ranks scientists in particular
like Isaac Newton used the secret
societies to conduct controversial
experiments searching for things like
the Philosopher's Stone that could turn
base metal into gold and the famed
elixir that could bring eternal life
they still weren't sure where the old
world of magic ended and the emerging
world of science began but they didn't
want their reputations to be destroyed
as John Dee's had been Newton's
involvement in these controversial
experiments remained a secret for
hundreds of years over time Freemasonry
evolved and expanded to include three
and only three core degrees that are
still used today entered apprenticed
fellow craft at master Mason Lodge
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meetings were an interactive ritual that
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included drama props and costumes that
allowed neophytes to work their way up
the ranks
the lodges created competing false
histories trying to stretch the origins
back as far as they could first to early
England then to the time of Christ then
the flood and then Adam and finally
before the earth itself had been created
the demand for new experiences and
additional knowledge resulted in
numerous appendant rights like the merit
badges in Scouting each of these
borrowed segments and narratives from
the core degrees with many religious
traditions having a specific appendant
write allegory symbols in history common
to all launches include the building and
destruction of the Temple of Solomon
with each Masonic Lodge standing as
proxy for the ancient edifice Jacob's
Ladder was an important conduit whereby
God known to Masons as the grand
architect of the universe What's in
heavenly messengers to earth four times
a year during the solstices and
equinoxes the Tree of Life was based on
three core pillars and was a way to
level up his members work together on
the prime goal of masonry that
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making good men better some of the many
appendant rights included ones like
royal ark masonry with the catchphrase
holiness to the Lord
Masons would learn they would like
worker bees and about the importance of
gathering knowledge Masonic words like
Keystone cornerstone and arch were
sprinkled heavily into the rites as for
the ironic and Melchizedek Priesthood in
the use of veils handshakes and secret
knocks those given the erotic priests
did learn about the rod of Aaron and the
terms power of the rod rods men and the
power of Aaron were used synonymously
and what a pendant ride called the
elected the nine Mason's would role play
being one of Solomon's guards searching
for an assassin they would find him in a
cave drunk and asleep laying next to his
own sword which they would use to behead
him at this point you may be wondering what does all this have to do with Mormonism I promise you we're almost done and when we are ...
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you'll see how it all fits together remember I found each and every one of these stories by following Clues in Lucy's book. We're down just a few years before Lucy Mack and Joseph Smith senior are married and we find ourselves in Scotland young Robert Burns is being forced to leave for Jamaica where he faces a sad life as a slave Wrangler. On the last night
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presiding over his Masonic Lodge he shares a poem he wrote bidding farewell to his brethren at the st. James Lodge
at Tarleton every mason is thrilled the
discovered that they can buy an entire
book of his poetry that includes other
secret Masonic poems this book can be
kept out for everyone to enjoy with only
masons knowing the hidden references
Robert sells out of the first printing
earns enough money to marry and not only
avoid see humility is waiting in Jamaica
he becomes Scotland's greatest poet
Freemasonry has now been around for
several hundred years and most no longer
believe in the literal truth claims made
early on they've discovered the real
alchemy of making good men better and
Burns is a shining example of this the
rise of Freemasonry is also guaranteed
the widespread adoption of the King
James Bible you have the free masons of
Scotland to thank every new year's when
you sing birds auld lang syne
as for Robert his farewell poem is
recited in lodges all over the world and 28:32 eventually morphs into the most shortened Masonic parting brethren adieu
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Across the pond lives a very special Indian, born in a Mohegan mud hut. Samson Occom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Occom
eventually converts to Scottish Presbyterianism and enters the tiny school of the great minister Eleazar wheel. Eleazar has made it his life's work to Indians and thrills at the chance to
teach Indians to do this themselves like
all of eliezer students samson has given
a classical education and learns Greek
Hebrew and Latin he learns rhetoric and
scriptures and how to act like a
gentleman
inspired by eleazar's plan to educate
more Indians that now Reverend Samson
Occam answers the call to serve a
two-year fundraising mission to England
he preaches over 300 sermons there to
everyone including royalty he is asked
to stay in England but declines feeling
himself to be more at home in Scotland
he crosses Hadrian's Wall the physical
barrier between the land in the north
and the south and is dismayed at the
state of the Scottish church were even
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the sermon he'd first heard from Eliezer
about the sort of justice appears to
fall on deaf ears he returns with honor
having raised millions in today's money
a special fund has been set up by the
Scottish Society for the propagation of
Christian knowledge they're keenly
interested in methods for Christianizing
heathens as they still have murderous erotic Highlanders causing them problems
Samson and Eliezer have a falling out
when a remote site of New Hampshire
selected for the college a few Indians
near there are traditional enemies of
Samson's tribal Samson goes on to give
and published a famous execution servant and creates his own tribe of Christian
Indians in Oneida, a town about 30 miles west of Utica New York he never
reconciles with Eliezer and dies
peacefully among his people the
Brotherton Indians Sam never sets foot
on the campus he funded his writings become the country's first Indian authored bestseller his sermons often include his belief that the Lord shows him a weak thing of the world and an Indian to bring about much righteousness. 30:33 buildings ponds and paths are named after him and everyone on the campus he funded learns of his legend many
including famous people thought his name
was Samuel the Indian Eliezer names his remote College after his main benefactor
the Earl of Dartmouth another contributor has the charity prep school
named after him both schools exist in the same location they share the exact
same buildings teachers and purpose
to turn young men into ministers and missionaries to the Indians and to
prepare them to become Freemasons
When Eliezer dies his son John becomes the president of the college the limited faculty includes the beloved Bezalel Woodward the math and philosophy professor and the very popular and former student professor John Smith. Professor Gianni is adored by the students and takes on several crucial jobs including professor of learn languages the college librarian the
minister of the college church and the
owner of
the local bookstore Professor Gianni is the cousin of both Lucy Mack Smith's mother Lydia and Joseph Smith seniors father a sale. He is also the teacher who inspired former students
including Solomon Spalding Ethan Smith and Daniel Webster he is an expert lexicographer and master of ancient languages who not only reads writes and speaks Greek Latin Hebrew and other languages he's a published author who
has written the grammars for many of
them he is also a natural philosopher
and loves to debate and reason with his
students if you were lucky enough to be
a student of early Dartmouth during the
decades the professor Johnny's teachings
or the core curriculum you would attend
his Church of Christ and learn about the
pre-existence about a pre or thought
ohmic covenant where the plan of salvation was revealed to the father sons and the sons of men and that Christ church exists in all ages of the earth you would attend his school of the prophets where you would learn Hebrew Greek Latin you would learn that spirit is a simpler form of matter and about
the importance of free agency and the prosperity cycle you would learn that there are people living on other worlds and that light brought light in the light of reason are the things that guide us you might attend his Masonic Armenian sermons where you would learn that priesthood is the source of Christ's Authority you would learn about the Aaronic priesthood and the Melchizedek Priesthood and how they are Co eternal with God you would learn about degrees of glory in the eternities at about a spiritual death after the fall you would learn that the father argues for justice and the son argues for mercy as a new student you would be encouraged to follow in the footsteps of
Daniel Webster and join one of the two
debating societies your dues would help
fund the massive libraries used to
prepare your team for the great end of
your debate
between the socials and the freighters
you would be taught correct principles
and be expected to govern yourself
wisely and to learn wisdom in your youth
the two debating society libraries place
Dartmouth in a position that far
exceeded other premier religious schools of the day the campus housed multiple
poorly guarded collections of rare and
valuable books on religion philosophy ancient languages masonry and more over
10,000 catalog titles were readily available plus each professor had a
personal library and the small town had
a well-stocked bookstore in 1797
President Wheelock allowed dr. Nathan Smith to joined the faculty through a profit sharing arrangement turned
Dartmouth into the fourth Medical School
in the United States
dr. Nathan joined professor Johnny and
the rest of the small faculty and is
remembered today mostly for his great
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deeds but he was also infamous at the
time for other deeds that were buried
and require a little digging dr. Nathan
Smith was living the early American
dream he had gone from poor farmer to
doctor to educator graduating from the
third Medical School in the u.s. at
Harvard and creating the fourth at
Dartmouth he went on to create other
medical schools but he kept being run
out of town by angry mobs his medical
schools had a dark secret
Nathan's dilemma was that the growing
country demanded good doctors good
doctors must know Anatomy
and learning Anatomy required dissecting
bodies bodies came from graves but the
public also demanded the sanctity of
graves more schools however meant
greater demand for doctors dissections
and bodies there were several bad places
for Nathan to get bodies he left behind
letters to other doctors asking them to
procure bodies for him there was also the time he hired the famous anatomist 35:04 dr. Alexander Ramsey the hunchback Scottish dwarf but that lasted less than a year there were students that he
involved one name is Twitchell did a great job
but in 1809 another student did a lousy
job and left behind his wallet at the
scene of the crime
this led authorities straight back to
Dartmouth and the result was an angry
mob demand
the school be shut down there were
several good places to get bodies the
few criminals executed each year were
fair game and Nathan even wrote the
governor asking him to delay an
execution for months until his anatomy
class was in session with no federal law
enforcement a body procured across the
river in Vermont was safe if it could be
brought on campus likewise bodies from
New Hampshire were traded to the Medical
School in neighboring vermont
the most effective means however was the
professionals known as the
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resurrectionists these small teams had
perfected their techniques could train
new recruits and were a reliable source
as demand and risks increased with the
growth of medical colleges so did the
Wraiths but public outcry could be kept
to a minimum if you use professionals in
the highly religious era of his time
Nathan Smith learned a truth by digging
up a loved ones corpse for anatomy
students to dissect could negatively
impact the faith and happiness of others
but it was still something that needed
to be done so it should be it's just not
something that you should talk about
openly here is a fictional help-wanted ad that shows exactly the type of
professional the Nathan was looking for do you need money are you willing to bend the rules can
you keep a secret we need a spotter to quietly write around locating fresh graves
we need able-bodied quiet diggers at
night you need to have a good cover
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story like failed money digger etc we
could pay you cash or kids tuition and
housing on Mason or an iminium preferred
no Puritans .
Hyrum Smith was born of goodly parents who recognized his
intelligence for the first 16 years of
his life he enjoyed the original Masonic
spelling of his name
H I are a camel when his family was
given the opportunity to send only one
of their children to an exclusive
boarding school Hiram was chosen over
all his brothers including his older
brother Alvin in 1811 eleven-year-old
Hyrum Smith goes off to the same
boarding school that his cousin Stephen
had started a year earlier they live on
campus at Dartmouth their Hyrum studies
to become a missionary to the Indians
and a minister
he learns Greek Latin and Hebrew at a
school of the prophets he is
indoctrinated with his relative John
Smith's religious philosophies attending
thousands of sermons and prayers and
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lectures he prepares to become a Mason
and to receive the Masonic priesthood he
can attend the medical lectures of dr.
Nathan Smith and he can watch debates
among the socials of the freighters as
they reasoned together he has access to
numerous religious libraries at school
Hiram lives by a river in a great and
spacious building the manner of dress
for his young rich classmates and old
teachers is exceedingly fine when
compared with his plain clothes.
His grandfather Solomon writes a religious book talking about a conversion
experience where heavenly lights visited
his room late at night his uncle Jason
is a charismatic cult leader his family
gives health care from Nathan Smith his
father brother and cousins are well
digger's and a remote isolated town that
doesn't need wells his family and
Stephens family move in together in a
house owned by a Dartmouth trustee it is
this time period that Lucy recalls in
her book with the famous story of Joseph
38:47 boyhood surgery she remembers precise
details and measurements about the
surgery decades later but somehow
forgets that dr. Nathan's last name is
her own Smith and she refers to him
instead as dr. stone. She claims that
Joseph refuses to be bound or to take
alcohol but a loving parent would have
required those things at that time she
claims that she sends Joseph to Uncle
Jesse and Salem to recover in 1813 but
she's been feuding with Jesse since 1799
and salem at that time why it's still the battlefront for the war of 1812 she
mentions that Hyrum goes to an Academy. Everything about her story implicates Dartmouth but she won't mention it or the infamous grave-digging doctors
Nathan by name in high rooms 14th year
there's great interest in the subject of
religion on campus the Dartmouth Church of Masonic Armenians is in a battle with
the town of Hanover Santa Mason Calvinists congregate
which is true there's an unprecedented outpouring of spirit among all the
students a young Levi Spalding a relative of Solomon feels unworthy he
retires to a secret Grove to pray
Levi wonders which church to join and he's visited by a flash of brilliant
light and feels that his sins are
forgiven
Levi shares this experience widely right
away and only ever tells one version he
leaves for a lifelong mission to the
Indians but not the Native Americans the
actual Indians in India many students
are inspired by young Levi and they join
the spiritual revival that spreads
throughout the campus by 1816 it's clear
that dr. Nathan Smith must go he's
perjured himself at a grave robbing
trial his attempts to calm the town have
actually converted more to strict
Calvinism these Calvinist trustees
become the majority and take over the
Dartmouth leadership The Armenian theology and John Smith's teachings are
buried the ban on recruiting Mason's on 40:49 campus is enforced and Nathan's own
daughter dies at 15 years of age he
flees town after his last lectures the
students revolted attempts to seize their unguarded massive libraries and
on the other side of the world there's a
catastrophe as Mount Tambora blows up.
Old Dartmouth is dead at the same time
the Smith family is warned out of Norwich. They're kicked out of the
Dartmouth trustees house along with the
Mack family. Hiram is yanked from school
one year before he graduates and Stephen
who has just graduated goes with them. For 20 years they've only moved back and
forth 5 to 20 miles in a tight little circle and all was near family at this
time
Joseph senior leaves with massive debts and goes 300 miles away. The older
boys follow and then Lucie. She cheats the driver at Owen Ida of just west of
Utica and in her manuscript just forgets to mention that this is the name of the
famous town of Ockham's Brotherhood
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Indians
The family reunites in palmyra with only a small portion of their effects and according to Lucy
since to their name shortly after arriving in a new town with no
connections just have senior borrows
money for horses
hiren gets a new alias hy r un his name
has changed from masonic to biblical
years before the morgan affair lucy
acquires a cake and beer shop on Main
Street and has young Joseph pedal he
wears vainly at revivals the family is
able to buy land build homes and thrive
while many in the rest of the world
starve and die.
After 11 months Joseph senior sues instead of paying for the horses and requests a Masonic jury his prior Masonic blackball should preclude him from joining a lodge yet Alvin, Joseph senior and Hyrum all become Freemasons at different lodges. They keep digging for money for the next 15 years
but they never ever find any and many neighbors later testify that they simply 42:48 don't know how the Smith family earns money. Meanwhile back east many rare and expensive books have gone missing from Dartmouth. There's no Scottie chronicon to be found anywhere on campus it's strange that a college founded is a Scottish religious institution does not have the Scottish religious history book Harvard has one but that would be like a book of mormon being found at Notre Dame but not at BYU Nathan moves on to Yale to form his next medical school he prefers to get his corpses from secret suppliers more medical schools continue to pop up everywhere the demand for dead bodies explodes it's applied from well organized teams yet no one ever claims credit following the pattern of the Old Testament
Joseph and the Smith family first goes through seven fat years in New York the multi-talented clan enjoys the fruits of three Freemasons, three conjurer's, three Presbyterians six of them have a basic 43:46 education - the parents have a good education and one, Hiram has an excellent education far exceeding the others Lucy has become a midwife and at least three family members have become failed money diggers during this time the family not only survives somehow they thrive after that the future doesn't look so bright the Smith family's luck changes complete overnight and ...
Tragedy strikes when Alvin dies kicking off seven lean years the family advertises in the local newspaper that they've camped in the graveyard with Alvin's body for five weeks just in case someone tries to rob it even though the younger boys are now a sold us Alvin was when they first moved into town any honest labor that is being done just isn't enough to pay the bills mounting. Deaths of two possible Smith benefactors Nathan Smith and Stephen Mac grow old and die the family loses their large home they need some new plan or total financial ruin lies just ahead.
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A quick inventory of the resources of the most capable Smith shall they have a
veritable dream team of talent Joseph's senior and Lucy the directors have a
good solid education
he's a freemason with connections and
she's a church-going Presbitarian, popular among their congregation he's a
conjurer failed money digger but also
has a talent as a writer which will be
shown later when he starts selling
patriarchal blessings
Lucy is a capable Midwife and she also is an author as
shown by the 300 page book she'll create
15 years later. Hyrum the writer has both
the benefits of a Lodge of freemason
Brethren and the same church
congregation as mom goes to he also has been a failed money digger but his
offering capabilities are beyond question and his massive brain has been
well trained by a first-rate education his penmanship is also flawless magic
man Joseph the actor has a few tricks up his sleeve he has minimal education but
as a well practiced conjurer and has the 45:49
ability to quickly memorize oversight
large sections from books it also
doesn't hurt that he's charming and
charismatic the team seeks to recreate the magic of Robert Burns and comes up
with a simple three-phase plan first the
three writers will create a book second
Joseph will help give it a magic reveal
and third the family can avoid total
financial Armageddon for their surefire
bestseller they decide to target the
market they know the thirty thousand
Freemasons right there in New York
they'll use Joseph to give it a genius
illiterate farmer filled with a very
masonic reveal involving an angel
descending Jacob's Ladder during
the autumn equinox revealing buried gold
plates in a stone box and Hyrum will go
one better than its fellow Dartmouth
alumni he'll make it indian-themed but
his Indians won't just be Jews like
Ethan Smith's in the view of the Hebrews
his book will reveal that ancient Native
Americans were actually freemasons
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they'll also write it in the popular
King James Bible style then invoke the
goal is to plagiarize but obfuscate the
source material Aladin history book like
the Scott a chronicon is a good choice
Latin stories use phrases like ed factum
to connect paragraphs this translates
into and it came to pass which certainly
sounds biblical and takes up a lot of
space making the finished book thicker
the legend of skoda and gay fellas can
be used as a framework Ireland and
Scotland can be swapped out with the New
World
Pole thing to be kicked off just before
the destruction of the Temple of Solomon
added bonus Latin text is full of
Semitic complexity including Chi Asmus
like that found in Greek and Hebrew
writings the abbot of Bridger Bauer and
the original compiler fordham can be
used as characters to make sure even the
thickest mason gets the burnsy in
Masonic Wings have the first order of
business for the colonists be to build a
new Masonic Lodge aka Solomon's Temple
have a single River in the land and name
it after the Phoenicians shipbuilding
port where Skoda is from make sure a
prophet Jacob shows up early to give the
Masonic party
brethren a gia don't forget a Tree of
Life some visions - an elective nine
type story where a good guy cuts off a
drunk bad guy's head with his own sword
you know fake it Masonic for added
filler we can use the story of Samson
Arkham the Indian but we'll rename him
Samuel the Lamanite we can take entire
sections of Masonic King James Bible and
just put them in somewhere but we want
patriarchal sounding advice we use the
teachings of Professor Johnny for the
destruction just before Christ's arrival
we can use the accounts of the
devastation in Indonesia following the
eruption of Mount Tambora we'll take a
sales family blessing and we'll expand
that in the King Benjamin's sermons and
we'll take the names of people locations
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and events and scramble them up a bit
let's construct a timeline to connect
the chapters together and then we'll
divvy up that work among the writing
team for the initial protagonist the
writing team didn't need inspiration
just a good memory to tell a story
about a family that was forced to leave
their home and travel far away or one
parent murmurs and wants to return to
the parents land and the visionary other
parent believes God has a plan for them
where children are sent back to steal
provisions and rare books that include
scriptures in Jenny ology where the
parents are surprised and happy to learn
from those stolen books that they're all
descended from Joseph of Egypt that when
they arrive in their new land they
thrive for a bet and the brothers they
often fight but then they make up if the
first family in the Book of Mormon was
really based upon the Smith family who
could be who well in Lucy's later books
she repeatedly compares herself to Lehi
and even offers a story where she is
leading people to a new land on a boat
she vividly recalls Lehi style dreams
from she is 70 years old this would make
sense if the dreams were always hers if
Joseph Smith jr. were Nephi well he
wouldn't have a younger brother also
than Joseph
but if dphi were really Hiram than that
and a brother named Sam does make sense
Joseph's senior could easily be the
basis for Sariah who murmurs and wants
to return to the land of her inheritance
I'm sure the thought of returning to his
father assails farms across Joseph
seniors mind more than once these
character assignments make sense for
other reasons
Sariah is not a biblical name but Sarah
a Hogg was a high priest in the temple
of Solomon and shows up all over Masonic
lore gender-bending the name helps
obfuscate the source Nephi is Latin for
pleasant and can also be Masonic li
decoded from the tribe Sarah I shall
belong to Lehi is Latin for Midway but
is also a location in the Bible where
they asked talked and means jawbone or
storyteller a most appropriate pseudonym
for Lucy each thing is also an exact
character match for the counterpart
which by itself may seem merely
every chapter of the Book of Mormon
except the one added later follows this
pattern and produces a nice division of
labor for the writing team that combined
with the mashed-up sources would account
for the multiple author voices found
using computerized word print analysis
one of Lucy's assigned books Alma is
also Latin for nourishing and is almost
always combine this alma mater which
translates to nourishing mother and is
also a Latin reference
to a previously attended school like
Dartmouth if these three were the
writing team they did a nice job of
giving themselves a shout-out in the
opening line of the Book of Mormon I Nev
I think of Hyrum having been born of
goodly parents well that includes all
three of them right there now this type
of obvious keishon happens all the time
in the tech industry and this team did a
fairly good job but they didn't even
have to be that clever if they had
confidence that Joseph's their front man
would perform his part well like any
good startup the team needed some seed
capital to kick things off the first
possible investor was Martin Harris
gullible and wealthy and in a bad
marriage to his cousin he was looking
for more from life including spending
time with his girlfriend
The Smiths had worked for him in the
past including Lucy who had been the
Midwife for his wife Joseph's senior and
Lucy were tasked with the approach and
the result was that Martin was on board
Joseph jr. was assigned to land a second
investor Isaac Hale was his reluctant
and very wealthy father-in-law he was
still angry that Joseph and Emma had
eloped practical and pragmatic he gave
Joseph a small cabin but made him work
for everything he gave him this was
helpful to Joseph personally but wasn't
a help to the project or the rest of the
Smith family the result was that Joseph
did not end up signing him and in tears
he admitted to his father-in-law that he
had never been a real conjurer Joseph's
role for the magic reveal is crucial
he is the diversion like the
disappearing coin trick his job is to
draw the attention away from the writers
his lack of a formal education and
common manners that makes it all seem
more magical this works so well but even
now when people lose faith in the story
about angels and gold plates they still
think Joseph was a genius who wrote it
all himself
Joseph's true genius would be revealed
later but at this stage he didn't even
own a King James Bible and if he'd had
most of it already committed a memory he
wouldn't have needed to buy himself a
copy when the Book of Mormon went to
print he had a good memory
maybe not photographic but still way
better than average with Hiram's
manuscript at the ready in albums wooden
box the actual trick was pretty simple
prior to a translation session
Joseph upload a few pages into memory
then in front of his scribe he would
place his rock and his head into his hat
the scribe would write whatever he was
cited and there you have a magic reveal
just have had a few of the tricks he
could use to speed things up he could
spell out words he couldn't pronounce
and because of his memory he could pick
up the translation at the exact point
where he'd left off he could ask him
about details he wasn't sure about like
if Jerusalem had a wall around him to
make sure Hiram wasn't tricking him
eventually he'd nailed up a curtain
between himself and Martin Harris this
meant he could skip the whole memorizing
step and didn't have to keep his head
bare in the Hat all day and didn't have
to look at Martin if he'd been too busy
to memorize his pages or was tired of
the work he could pretend he was in a
fight with Emma go into the woods to
pray and there he could memorize her
relax and return hours later to continue
coinciding with the execution of the
Book of Mormon version 1.0 plan a
freemason named William Morgan announces
his intention to publish an ephah
Masonic book in New York that would
reveal the appendant ceremonies Morgan
is kidnapped and murdered and Mason's
are suspected the alleged kidnappers
come from the same Lodge in Canandaigua
that Joseph Smith senior belongs to when
the trial is over the accused murderers
have avoided harsh punishment
anti-masonic sentiment reaches a fever
pitch by mid 1828 all churches and many
leaders publicly come out against
masonry membership drops Masons go into
hiding in New York 400 lodges close with
only about 80 remaining membership Falls
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from the tens of thousands to less than
3,000 Thomas Paine's lost Masonic
chapter of the anti-religious Age of
Reason is ironically touted by
Christians who are convinced of his
claims that masonry is just a shell
setup to secretly hide Scottish true in
some worship this bombshell says
anti-masonic sentiment through the roof
an overtly Masonic Book of Mormon is
doomed as there is no longer a market or
anything Crowe masonry a partial rewrite
is the Book of Mormon version 2.0 plan
is to drop the overtly masonic tone
instead of here to focus more on the
spiritual than the historical as part of
this plants were also made to restore
the relative John Smith's Church of
Christ from Dartmouth the team modifies
the magic reveal to make the work move
faster keeps the hidden masonic
shout-outs in an effort to bring
closeted masons on board who would be
thrilled to find they had done pain one
better and we're now hiding masonry
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inside the shell of Christianity the
initial hundred and sixteen pages are
stolen back by the family due to the
need for the rewrite Joseph has sent
home to care for his wife Emma as the
Smith family debt continues to climb and
Hyrum takes on debt cousin Oliver
Cowdery a freemason is enlisted to speed
things up he lives with the Hiram
Joseph's senior and Lucie family during
the winter as they clean up the
manuscript Calvary is assigned the book
of Helaman and stuffs it full of
seemingly at the Masonic ideas Joseph
and Oliver meet for the first time in
April 1829 and the entire work is ready
for the printers by Jim working with
Oliver Joseph jr. has very little work
to do as a magic reveal is rarely needed
the rock and the hat-trick is still
deployed on occasion and it's used to
convince the witness of the book's
divine origin to convince witnesses of
the divine origin costumes and props
from the now-empty Masonic lodges are
deploying the witnesses who rely on
their actual physical eyes really
testify that they have seen someone who
looks like an angel holding something
that looks like golden plates with
markings on them that they cannot read
this is hardly evidence that what is
printed in the Book of Mormon came from
that angel or those plates that makes
things easier if every witness is
related to a Whitmer or a Smith it's
also worth noting that every witness
still alive in 1845 except William Smith
and Oliver Cowdery fall for a similar
yet better executed trick played by
Strang with Lucy and Joseph seniors
standing in as the paternal voice of God
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in the early revelations a nutritious ??? organized patterned after the old church at Dartmouth many of the early members
come from Freemasonry and instantly
recognize the Masonic message barely
concealed in the Book of Mormon they do
not get caught up in the obvious
glaring errors or inaccuracies in the
text because they know is former
freemasons the truths could be hiding inside
stories and fables that are not
literally true masonry hiding inside
Mormonism has also lowered the run of
Jacob's Ladder the new goal is to not
just make Goodman better using the new
mormon priesthood there is the added
goal of making bad man good
unfortunately not enough copies of the
book of mormon were sold to save the
Smith farm Joseph's senior went to
debtors prison while Hyrum in a school
of the prophets was set up when the
Saints migrated to Ohio and Joseph jr.
and his brothers were finally given the
educational opportunities similar to
those Hyrum had enjoyed at Dartmouth
they did not use professor Johnny's
textbooks the Smith family had lots of
adventures including the time Hyrum and
Joseph were in Liberty jail and Hyrum
wrote amazing letters that Joseph copied
his revelations four days later as more
and more believing Christians joined the
church Christian styles histories and
visions were added first by Orson Pratt
and then others to create a more faith
promoting narrative for the true
believers several versions were needed
to get it just right
soon after reaching Ohio Hyrum oversaw
the construction of a Masonic Lodge it
was laid out properly on an east-west
line it was called a temple like under
Solomon's as more members joined the
church the Smith family started earning
regular steady incomes they gathered
wealth speculated on real estate
operated financial institutions hotels
and steamships only the first five
leaders of the Mormon Church were
freemasons
when Joseph finally booted up he
discovered the Book of Mormon theology
didn't match his so he revised it when
the Saints arrived in Ohio several
medical schools open including one four
miles from the temple when the saints
left every school closed due to grave
robbing scandals after the Saints
reached Nauvoo masonry was on the rise
again that excited Joseph pushed the men
to make sure everyone became a freemason
he himself went through the three
degrees and achieved Master Mason status
in two days by memorizing text that
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takes most men months the Nauvoo
endowment wasn't stolen from freemason
it was designed as independent right
initially an add-on freemasons were in
the mob that murdered Joseph and Hyrum
upset with polygamy in the way Mormons
practiced masonry Brigham Young
successfully navigated a secession
crisis traded resources to Lucy and Emma
so Lucy would not publish her book and
left for Utah thinking the matter
settled as an early sainted Freemason
Brigham himself was one of those who had
converted to Mormonism years before the
first vision story when it was all
Masonic illusions Brigham Young was a
figurative Mormon have you ever wondered
why any believing member could claim
absolute knowledge that every other
truth claim of the church is literally
true except for the many times over its
entire history where the church has
repeated the pattern of openly admitting
that it lied well that's because that
many feel that a truth it could negatively impact the faith of others is something that should not be talked about openly but as a figurative Mormon I believe any real truth should be openly talked about and that you should not leave a marriage breakup a family or ostracize a loved one just because they no longer believe the literal truth claims of an organization
that is repeatedly admitted it lies this is not even part of the theology those
who doggedly insist that truth is only found in stories that must literally be
true well they should remember that other ancient storyteller who was clear
his stories were not literally true but he didn't call his stories fables he called them parables
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